Cunthair Walrus vs Rabbi Alexis Linder, Auntie-Christian Ayn Rand LibberToon jewboy
Alex Linder and White Nationalism 1.0
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...tionalism-1-0/
http://christian-identity.net/forum/...6739#post16739
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...6739#post16739
Alex Linder, jewboy, yelps at Billy Roper's Anti-Brown vs Bored of Edjewmacation Rally, Topeka May 2004
Alex Linder has responded to my articles on White Nationalism 1.0
I realize now that I need to write more about this subject because I haven’t told the whole story. We’re at the point now where we are rehashing history. My articles weren’t so much about Alex Linder or Billy Roper as they were about what went wrong in the 2000s.
It’s not like Alex Linder is White Nationalism 1.0 whereas I represent White Nationalism 2.0. I’ve been around for as long as Linder. I’m sure we have seen many of the same things. If we are completely honest with ourselves, I imagine we will agree on more than we disagree.
Let’s start with the obvious:
1.) First, it is depressing to comb through the archives of dead vBulletin forums – several of my own included – and see all the people who have disappeared. The vBulletin forum was an amazing tool that allowed our ideas to reach a mass audience, but it wasn’t without its flaws.
2.) Second, shitposting on anonymous forums often brings out the worst in people. It creates a low-trust environment. It often leads to nothing but more shitposting because it acts as a safe space. I had grown tired of it after 10 years and now it has been almost 20 years.
3.) Third, I am willing to bet that even Alex Linder will agree that we absolutely cannot afford another 20 years of shitposting on anonymous forums. We’ve got to move beyond that.
4.) Fourth, the next step beyond shitposting on anonymous forums is creating real world social networks. When you know other likeminded people in your area, it is much easier to exchange one value system and social network for a more agreeable and intellectually consistent one. We also need to hold regular events for the leaders of the movement can get to know each other and avoid infighting.
5.) Fifth, I am sure Alex Linder will agree there wasn’t enough trust and social capital in the White Nationalist movement in the 2000s and this had a lot to do with the nature of the vBulletin forum. There was too much infighting and not enough cooperation.
6.) Sixth, the bottom line is that we were more disorganized in 2010 than we were in 2000. We had also become less active. And yet, the sheer number of people who had been exposed to our ideas had grown. This is what I mean when I say White Nationalism had become bottled up on the internet.
I’ve always said that Alex Linder’s finest moment was the Knoxville rally in 2007. I thought it was a stand up thing to do to go to Knoxville and draw attention to that atrocity. I’m also willing to admit that Alex was right about a number of things like destroying conservatism, using humor to get his points across and never downplaying the Jewish Question. In hindsight, I think he was trying to do with The Aryan Alternative what The Daily Stormer eventually became.
Even when I have vehemently disagreed, I have always said that Alex Linder is very intelligent. We can argue about his choice of allies, his stance on Christianity, the awful things he has said about Sam Francis and Jared Taylor and exterminationism. We will never agree on those issues. We should be able to engage in a dialogue though on how things ought to change for we can move forward.
Here is my proposal: I’m inviting Alex Linder to come to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA on August 12th. I’ve got a place for him to stay. Seriously, come to Charlottesville, get to know all of us in real life, have a good time, Unite the White and be a part of the solution.
Note: If Alex Linder needs to raise the money to travel, he can easily use one of these services. We invited Billy Roper to come but he wouldn’t have it.
Alex Linder and White Nationalism 1.0
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/201...tionalism-1-0/
http://christian-identity.net/forum/...6739#post16739
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/sh...6739#post16739
Alex Linder, jewboy, yelps at Billy Roper's Anti-Brown vs Bored of Edjewmacation Rally, Topeka May 2004
Alex Linder has responded to my articles on White Nationalism 1.0
I realize now that I need to write more about this subject because I haven’t told the whole story. We’re at the point now where we are rehashing history. My articles weren’t so much about Alex Linder or Billy Roper as they were about what went wrong in the 2000s.
It’s not like Alex Linder is White Nationalism 1.0 whereas I represent White Nationalism 2.0. I’ve been around for as long as Linder. I’m sure we have seen many of the same things. If we are completely honest with ourselves, I imagine we will agree on more than we disagree.
Let’s start with the obvious:
1.) First, it is depressing to comb through the archives of dead vBulletin forums – several of my own included – and see all the people who have disappeared. The vBulletin forum was an amazing tool that allowed our ideas to reach a mass audience, but it wasn’t without its flaws.
2.) Second, shitposting on anonymous forums often brings out the worst in people. It creates a low-trust environment. It often leads to nothing but more shitposting because it acts as a safe space. I had grown tired of it after 10 years and now it has been almost 20 years.
3.) Third, I am willing to bet that even Alex Linder will agree that we absolutely cannot afford another 20 years of shitposting on anonymous forums. We’ve got to move beyond that.
4.) Fourth, the next step beyond shitposting on anonymous forums is creating real world social networks. When you know other likeminded people in your area, it is much easier to exchange one value system and social network for a more agreeable and intellectually consistent one. We also need to hold regular events for the leaders of the movement can get to know each other and avoid infighting.
5.) Fifth, I am sure Alex Linder will agree there wasn’t enough trust and social capital in the White Nationalist movement in the 2000s and this had a lot to do with the nature of the vBulletin forum. There was too much infighting and not enough cooperation.
6.) Sixth, the bottom line is that we were more disorganized in 2010 than we were in 2000. We had also become less active. And yet, the sheer number of people who had been exposed to our ideas had grown. This is what I mean when I say White Nationalism had become bottled up on the internet.
I’ve always said that Alex Linder’s finest moment was the Knoxville rally in 2007. I thought it was a stand up thing to do to go to Knoxville and draw attention to that atrocity. I’m also willing to admit that Alex was right about a number of things like destroying conservatism, using humor to get his points across and never downplaying the Jewish Question. In hindsight, I think he was trying to do with The Aryan Alternative what The Daily Stormer eventually became.
Even when I have vehemently disagreed, I have always said that Alex Linder is very intelligent. We can argue about his choice of allies, his stance on Christianity, the awful things he has said about Sam Francis and Jared Taylor and exterminationism. We will never agree on those issues. We should be able to engage in a dialogue though on how things ought to change for we can move forward.
Here is my proposal: I’m inviting Alex Linder to come to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, VA on August 12th. I’ve got a place for him to stay. Seriously, come to Charlottesville, get to know all of us in real life, have a good time, Unite the White and be a part of the solution.
Note: If Alex Linder needs to raise the money to travel, he can easily use one of these services. We invited Billy Roper to come but he wouldn’t have it.
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